Resolved [LF Opinion] A-Grade Armor Recipes Droppable/Spoilable

[Saint]

What's your take on droppable/spoilable a-grade armor recipes based on research below:

Research on A-Grade Armor Recipes in Lineage 2 Interlude Chronicle

Research on A-Grade Armor Recipes in Lineage 2 Interlude Chronicle Official Patch Notes and Changes Based on archived official patch notes from NCSoft, the developer of Lineage 2, the ability to obtain A-grade armor recipes via spoil and drops was introduced in Chronicle 5: Oath of Blood (C5), wh...

docs.google.com

This has been raised by my players as something that would need to be addressed on my server, but braindead players who consider themselves pro at lineage due to playing interlude past 20 years think otherwise and claim this is false info. So I'm asking here, people who've been in the scene for longer and might know more about 'how it really was' and 'what's the truth'.

Note the fact @Deazer is pulling PTS data and that has these armor recipes not being droppable or spoilable and only obtained with GC quest.

 

[Saint]

On the other hand you could say 'In lucera's PTS data we trust, fuck the rest'.

 

[FORD]

To be honest, I didn't understand your question at all...
You took some incomprehensible article and are trying to ask what?
In Interlude there are recipes that are obtained only by spoil, only by drop, and only by quest.
What is the question actually?
There is an initial value, where what is obtained. They are standard everywhere (the only difference is in quantity and chance)
You can remake it for yourself
Or spend a lot of time developing additional drops, new monsters, satisfy the whims of 3 players, and the rest will never even know about it. After all, 70% of players don't even really read the descriptions, not to mention that they will read new introductions to a drop that no one needs A grade

 

[Saint]

To be honest, I didn't understand your question at all...
You took some incomprehensible article and are trying to ask what?
In Interlude there are recipes that are obtained only by spoil, only by drop, and only by quest.
What is the question actually?
There is an initial value, where what is obtained. They are standard everywhere (the only difference is in quantity and chance)
You can remake it for yourself
Or spend a lot of time developing additional drops, new monsters, satisfy the whims of 3 players, and the rest will never even know about it. After all, 70% of players don't even really read the descriptions, not to mention that they will read new introductions to a drop that no one needs A grade

Yeah might not have been clear enough, but all comes down to me catering to players ideas of pmfun, l2j.ru being absolute knowledge base for them. That said after talking to people involved in server development I can clearly say to trust in what Deazer is putting into the dp and just ignore “popular” databases.

 

[Salem]

A-grade recipes have different ways of being obtained. Some have all three methods available (Drop, Spoil, Quest), like the Tallum Tunic. Others, like the Tallum Gloves, cannot be obtained through spoil. It has always been like this, even on the official server.
It’s good for the admin to listen to the players, but there are some players you should just ignore.

 

[Saint]

A-grade recipes have different ways of being obtained. Some have all three methods available, like the Tallum Tunic. Others, like the Tallum Gloves, cannot be obtained through spoil. It has always been like this, even on the official server.
It’s good for the admin to listen to the players, but there are some players you should just ignore.

Everything checks out but then you get dozens of links to “databases” where tallum plate armor recipe can be spoiled from a mob and it’s not in the server files. It comes down to which source you trust more since there’s nobody who either remembers how it was or no info whatsoever how it was.

 

[FORD]

Everything checks out but then you get dozens of links to “databases” where tallum plate armor recipe can be spoiled from a mob and it’s not in the server files. It comes down to which source you trust more since there’s nobody who either remembers how it was or no info whatsoever how it was.

for this they just need not to use the High Five base
And everything will be fine

 

[Saint]

for this they just need not to use the High Five base
And everything will be fine

Yeah I’m still not used to tell the player base to fuck off and fact check themselves

 

[Salem]

Everything checks out but then you get dozens of links to “databases” where tallum plate armor recipe can be spoiled from a mob and it’s not in the server files. It comes down to which source you trust more since there’s nobody who either remembers how it was or no info whatsoever how it was.

Now that you mentioned it, I remembered that I’ve already come across this kind of problem. Actually, the Recipe Sealed Tallum Plate Armor should be spoiled from Mul's Knight, but on Lucera, it isn’t. Maybe @Deazer can clarify this for us."

 

[Saint]

Now that you mentioned it, I remembered that I’ve already come across this kind of problem. Actually, the Recipe Sealed Tallum Plate Armor should be spoiled from Mul's Knight, but on Lucera, it isn’t. Maybe @Deazer can clarify this for us."

Yeah that’s the main source of the topic pretty much.

 

[Deazer]

What's your take on droppable/spoilable a-grade armor recipes based on research below:

Research on A-Grade Armor Recipes in Lineage 2 Interlude Chronicle

Research on A-Grade Armor Recipes in Lineage 2 Interlude Chronicle Official Patch Notes and Changes Based on archived official patch notes from NCSoft, the developer of Lineage 2, the ability to obtain A-grade armor recipes via spoil and drops was introduced in Chronicle 5: Oath of Blood (C5), wh...

docs.google.com

This has been raised by my players as something that would need to be addressed on my server, but braindead players who consider themselves pro at lineage due to playing interlude past 20 years think otherwise and claim this is false info. So I'm asking here, people who've been in the scene for longer and might know more about 'how it really was' and 'what's the truth'.

Note the fact @Deazer is pulling PTS data and that has these armor recipes not being droppable or spoilable and only obtained with GC quest.

Use please this https://web.archive.org/web/20070622164200/http://www.plaync.com/us/support/prod_10_cat_52.html

Also your link looks like garbage

Created: August 29, 2025, RLY ????

Not a fake link is: https://web.archive.org/web/20180108132128/http://legacy.lineage2.com/news/interlude_01.html

And I don't even know anything about what was "written" in the patch notes.

RLY ???

Recipe: Sealed Majestic Leather Armor(60%) in Lineage 2 - Drop Rates, Spoil Information, and Usage

Find all you need to know about Recipe: Sealed Majestic Leather Armor(60%) in Lineage 2: drop rates, spoil sources, NPCs, and zones. Accurate data for classic servers from Chronicle 1 to High Five.

l2.dropspoil.com

WTF ??


I also don't understand the question. Recipes already drop from mobs. For example:
<npc id="20761" name="Pytan" title="">
<etcitem id="5338" name="Recipe: Sealed Majestic Leather Armor(60%)">

 

[Saint]

Use please this https://web.archive.org/web/20070622164200/http://www.plaync.com/us/support/prod_10_cat_52.html

Also your link looks like garbage
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Created: August 29, 2025, RLY ????
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Not a fake link is: https://web.archive.org/web/20180108132128/http://legacy.lineage2.com/news/interlude_01.html

And I don't even know anything about what was "written" in the patch notes.

RLY ???
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Recipe: Sealed Majestic Leather Armor(60%) in Lineage 2 - Drop Rates, Spoil Information, and Usage

Find all you need to know about Recipe: Sealed Majestic Leather Armor(60%) in Lineage 2: drop rates, spoil sources, NPCs, and zones. Accurate data for classic servers from Chronicle 1 to High Five.

l2.dropspoil.com

WTF ??


I also don't understand the question. Recipes already drop from mobs. For example:
<npc id="20761" name="Pytan" title="">
<etcitem id="5338" name="Recipe: Sealed Majestic Leather Armor(60%)">

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Thanks for the links, this thread was not meant to question your data. Rather a way of doing my own research and hearing out opinions. I’m more inclined to believe your data than any other pack I worked with.

 

[Salem]

 

[Salem]

Use please this https://web.archive.org/web/20070622164200/http://www.plaync.com/us/support/prod_10_cat_52.html

Also your link looks like garbage
View attachment 6846
Created: August 29, 2025, RLY ????
View attachment 6847
Not a fake link is: https://web.archive.org/web/20180108132128/http://legacy.lineage2.com/news/interlude_01.html

And I don't even know anything about what was "written" in the patch notes.

RLY ???
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Recipe: Sealed Majestic Leather Armor(60%) in Lineage 2 - Drop Rates, Spoil Information, and Usage

Find all you need to know about Recipe: Sealed Majestic Leather Armor(60%) in Lineage 2: drop rates, spoil sources, NPCs, and zones. Accurate data for classic servers from Chronicle 1 to High Five.

l2.dropspoil.com

WTF ??


I also don't understand the question. Recipes already drop from mobs. For example:
<npc id="20761" name="Pytan" title="">
<etcitem id="5338" name="Recipe: Sealed Majestic Leather Armor(60%)">

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Ok, but what about the Recipe: Sealed Tallum Plate Armor? It drops from the mob Slaughter Bathin – ID 21075, but it should also be spoiled from the mob Mul's Knight – ID 20982, but in Lucera it isn’t.

 

[Deazer]

Ok, but what about the Recipe: Sealed Tallum Plate Armor? It drops from the mob Slaughter Bathin – ID 21075, but it should also be spoiled from the mob Mul's Knight – ID 20982, but in Lucera it isn’t.

Where did you get the idea that he should be there... do you have any proof? I could just as easily claim that I can use Ryanair's services for free, why not...
Databases created by schoolchildren during a Coca-Cola fueled frenzy are not considered sources.

 

[Saint]

Where did you get the idea that he should be there... do you have any proof? I could just as easily claim that I can use Ryanair's services for free, why not...
Databases created by schoolchildren during a Coca-Cola fueled frenzy are not considered sources.

Nobody has any proof for anything, nor you nor us. It is a matter of establishing what we consider valid. Personally, I trust in what you put as data, but obviously there tons of “sources” that “prove” otherwise (I deliberately put these into quotes).

 

[Dev-Kiwi]

Nobody has any proof for anything, nor you nor us.

i dare everyone and can bet with everyone in here.



as for an answer on topic:

Ok, but what about the Recipe: Sealed Tallum Plate Armor? It drops from the mob Slaughter Bathin – ID 21075, but it should also be spoiled from the mob Mul's Knight – ID 20982, but in Lucera it isn’t.

this is definitely trash information. TPA Rec.(Tallum Plate Arm. Recipe) is dropable from this mob(21075) only and only this.!

[rp_sealed_tallum_plate_armor_i];1;1;0.17368

21075    [slaughter_bathin]    level=63    acquire_exp_rate=3.5248    acquire_sp=1262    unsowing=0    clan={@hallate_clan}    ignore_clan_list={}    clan_help_range=200    slot_chest=[]    slot_rhand=[homunkulus_s_sword]    slot_lhand=[]    shield_defense_rate=0    shield_defense=0    skill_list={@s_race_undead;@s_hp_increase10;@s_increase_p_atk12;@s_increase_m_atk12;@s_increase_p_def12;@s_increase_m_def10;@s_npc_weakness_holy2;@s_evil_attack;@s_npc_critical_chance;@s_npc_weakness_wind1}    npc_ai={[slaughter_bathin];{[MoveAroundSocial]=74};{[MoveAroundSocial1]=74};{[MoveAroundSocial2]=74};{[PhysicalSpecial]=@s_npc_stun_attack6}}    category={}    race=undead    sex=male    undying=0    can_be_attacked=1    corpse_time=7    no_sleep_mode=0    agro_range=1000    ground_high={174;0;0}    ground_low={27;0;0}    exp=189364895    org_hp=2089.92274    org_hp_regen=7.5    org_mp=1127.4    org_mp_regen=2.7    collision_radius={12;14.5}    collision_height={31;36}    str=40    int=21    dex=30    wit=20    con=43    men=20    base_attack_type=sword    base_attack_range=40    base_damage_range={0;0;80;120}    base_rand_dam=30    base_physical_attack=541.44774    base_critical=4    physical_hit_modify=4.75    base_attack_speed=253    base_reuse_delay=0    base_magic_attack=369.73862    base_defend=262.19426    base_magic_defend=174.571895122369    physical_avoid_modify=0    soulshot_count=0    spiritshot_count=0    hit_time_factor=0.71    item_make_list={}    corpse_make_list={{[mold_hardener];1;1;3.8815};{[earing_of_black_ore_piece];1;1;15.8037};{[dye_c4c4_c];1;1;0.6157}}    additional_make_list={}    additional_make_multi_list={{{{[adena];1806;3656;100}};70};{{{[blue_wolve_s_gloves];1;1;25};{[doom_gloves];1;1;25};{[blue_wolve_s_boots];1;1;25};{[doom_boots];1;1;25}};0.0164};{{{[blue_wolve_s_boots_design];1;1;2.6115};{[blue_wolve_s_gloves_fabric];1;1;2.6115};{[doom_boots_part];1;1;2.6115};{[doom_gloves_part];1;1;2.6115};{[rp_demon_s_sword_i];1;1;0.05083};{[rp_adv_comp_spiritshot_a];1;1;0.08896};{[rp_sealed_tallum_plate_armor_i];1;1;0.17368};{[mold_hardener];1;1;0.58527};{[mold_lubricant];1;1;0.58527};{[admantite_nugget];1;1;0.58527};{[charcoal];1;1;50.4285};{[suede];1;1;35.3};{[life_stone_level_641];1;1;1.75618}};28.3286}}    hp_increase=0    mp_increase=0

 

[Saint]

i dare everyone and can bet with everyone in here.

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as for an answer on topic:

this is definitely trash information. TPA Rec.(Tallum Plate Arm. Recipe) is dropable from this mob(21075) only and only this.!

[rp_sealed_tallum_plate_armor_i];1;1;0.17368

21075    [slaughter_bathin]    level=63    acquire_exp_rate=3.5248    acquire_sp=1262    unsowing=0    clan={@hallate_clan}    ignore_clan_list={}    clan_help_range=200    slot_chest=[]    slot_rhand=[homunkulus_s_sword]    slot_lhand=[]    shield_defense_rate=0    shield_defense=0    skill_list={@s_race_undead;@s_hp_increase10;@s_increase_p_atk12;@s_increase_m_atk12;@s_increase_p_def12;@s_increase_m_def10;@s_npc_weakness_holy2;@s_evil_attack;@s_npc_critical_chance;@s_npc_weakness_wind1}    npc_ai={[slaughter_bathin];{[MoveAroundSocial]=74};{[MoveAroundSocial1]=74};{[MoveAroundSocial2]=74};{[PhysicalSpecial]=@s_npc_stun_attack6}}    category={}    race=undead    sex=male    undying=0    can_be_attacked=1    corpse_time=7    no_sleep_mode=0    agro_range=1000    ground_high={174;0;0}    ground_low={27;0;0}    exp=189364895    org_hp=2089.92274    org_hp_regen=7.5    org_mp=1127.4    org_mp_regen=2.7    collision_radius={12;14.5}    collision_height={31;36}    str=40    int=21    dex=30    wit=20    con=43    men=20    base_attack_type=sword    base_attack_range=40    base_damage_range={0;0;80;120}    base_rand_dam=30    base_physical_attack=541.44774    base_critical=4    physical_hit_modify=4.75    base_attack_speed=253    base_reuse_delay=0    base_magic_attack=369.73862    base_defend=262.19426    base_magic_defend=174.571895122369    physical_avoid_modify=0    soulshot_count=0    spiritshot_count=0    hit_time_factor=0.71    item_make_list={}    corpse_make_list={{[mold_hardener];1;1;3.8815};{[earing_of_black_ore_piece];1;1;15.8037};{[dye_c4c4_c];1;1;0.6157}}    additional_make_list={}    additional_make_multi_list={{{{[adena];1806;3656;100}};70};{{{[blue_wolve_s_gloves];1;1;25};{[doom_gloves];1;1;25};{[blue_wolve_s_boots];1;1;25};{[doom_boots];1;1;25}};0.0164};{{{[blue_wolve_s_boots_design];1;1;2.6115};{[blue_wolve_s_gloves_fabric];1;1;2.6115};{[doom_boots_part];1;1;2.6115};{[doom_gloves_part];1;1;2.6115};{[rp_demon_s_sword_i];1;1;0.05083};{[rp_adv_comp_spiritshot_a];1;1;0.08896};{[rp_sealed_tallum_plate_armor_i];1;1;0.17368};{[mold_hardener];1;1;0.58527};{[mold_lubricant];1;1;0.58527};{[admantite_nugget];1;1;0.58527};{[charcoal];1;1;50.4285};{[suede];1;1;35.3};{[life_stone_level_641];1;1;1.75618}};28.3286}}    hp_increase=0    mp_increase=0

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Bloody Inspector Gadget !

 

[Dev-Kiwi]

 

[Salem]

i dare everyone and can bet with everyone in here.

View attachment 6850

as for an answer on topic:

this is definitely trash information. TPA Rec.(Tallum Plate Arm. Recipe) is dropable from this mob(21075) only and only this.!

[rp_sealed_tallum_plate_armor_i];1;1;0.17368

21075    [slaughter_bathin]    level=63    acquire_exp_rate=3.5248    acquire_sp=1262    unsowing=0    clan={@hallate_clan}    ignore_clan_list={}    clan_help_range=200    slot_chest=[]    slot_rhand=[homunkulus_s_sword]    slot_lhand=[]    shield_defense_rate=0    shield_defense=0    skill_list={@s_race_undead;@s_hp_increase10;@s_increase_p_atk12;@s_increase_m_atk12;@s_increase_p_def12;@s_increase_m_def10;@s_npc_weakness_holy2;@s_evil_attack;@s_npc_critical_chance;@s_npc_weakness_wind1}    npc_ai={[slaughter_bathin];{[MoveAroundSocial]=74};{[MoveAroundSocial1]=74};{[MoveAroundSocial2]=74};{[PhysicalSpecial]=@s_npc_stun_attack6}}    category={}    race=undead    sex=male    undying=0    can_be_attacked=1    corpse_time=7    no_sleep_mode=0    agro_range=1000    ground_high={174;0;0}    ground_low={27;0;0}    exp=189364895    org_hp=2089.92274    org_hp_regen=7.5    org_mp=1127.4    org_mp_regen=2.7    collision_radius={12;14.5}    collision_height={31;36}    str=40    int=21    dex=30    wit=20    con=43    men=20    base_attack_type=sword    base_attack_range=40    base_damage_range={0;0;80;120}    base_rand_dam=30    base_physical_attack=541.44774    base_critical=4    physical_hit_modify=4.75    base_attack_speed=253    base_reuse_delay=0    base_magic_attack=369.73862    base_defend=262.19426    base_magic_defend=174.571895122369    physical_avoid_modify=0    soulshot_count=0    spiritshot_count=0    hit_time_factor=0.71    item_make_list={}    corpse_make_list={{[mold_hardener];1;1;3.8815};{[earing_of_black_ore_piece];1;1;15.8037};{[dye_c4c4_c];1;1;0.6157}}    additional_make_list={}    additional_make_multi_list={{{{[adena];1806;3656;100}};70};{{{[blue_wolve_s_gloves];1;1;25};{[doom_gloves];1;1;25};{[blue_wolve_s_boots];1;1;25};{[doom_boots];1;1;25}};0.0164};{{{[blue_wolve_s_boots_design];1;1;2.6115};{[blue_wolve_s_gloves_fabric];1;1;2.6115};{[doom_boots_part];1;1;2.6115};{[doom_gloves_part];1;1;2.6115};{[rp_demon_s_sword_i];1;1;0.05083};{[rp_adv_comp_spiritshot_a];1;1;0.08896};{[rp_sealed_tallum_plate_armor_i];1;1;0.17368};{[mold_hardener];1;1;0.58527};{[mold_lubricant];1;1;0.58527};{[admantite_nugget];1;1;0.58527};{[charcoal];1;1;50.4285};{[suede];1;1;35.3};{[life_stone_level_641];1;1;1.75618}};28.3286}}    hp_increase=0    mp_increase=0

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Thank you for the clarification.